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callmeslick

Are the right statistics not available? To make a compelling case that the amount of taxes that the highest earners pay has dramatically decreased, do this: pick and fix some very high income in today's dollar, say $500k/year, adjust it for inflation 50 years ago, and then find statistics on what a...

callmeslick

"course" Doh! Heh. That wasn't auto-correct's fault, that was all me. I should probably turn it off. I used to be great at spelling and I find myself slipping these days. actually, we all fall prey to that one, thanks to a tendency to rely on automated tools. Note to those commentors sans...

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Will, interesting reponse and clarifications. I see nothing to rebut or clarify, but will stand by what I'm seeing so far. As I said earlier, this thread was mainly my early post-election impressions. We'll see where it goes from here.....

callmeslick

I guess going further down there is another topic, but I find that very interesting and very disturbing. The fact that there are people with such little love for and appreciation of freedom is incredible. I mean... that money/property shouldn't belong to anyone but the one(s) the original owner lea...

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.. if Taxes are the sure death of our society...and deficit spending serves no purpose, ever.. A much better question from my perspective is: If a false premise serves your purposes then who do you serve? gonna duck reality on this one, huh, Will?? Apparently, Spidey is going to keep you company, s...

callmeslick

I think a more useful statistic would be what percentage of *total* income people paid *in* *practice*. The tax rate for only your income falling in the highest bracket is an unintuitive statistic that's hard to reason about it. Plus, it fails to take into account deductions, loopholes, etc. I conj...

callmeslick

You're not going to win an argument for deficit spending with me. of course not, your mind is made up and thus closed for business. Your argument turns a blind eye to that and postulates that it'll lead to prosperity. Really? yes, really. And, I'm not 'postulating' a damned thing, it is proven that...

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No more special childrens program, no need for special Medicaid program. You're obviously a heartless Republican bottom-dweller, robbing from children and the poor. I think NotsoSlicks' comment was sarcasm but I could be wrong. no, it wasn't. With cradle-to-grave Medicare, you don't need extra prog...

callmeslick

Further hot Iodine breaks down very quickly. On the other hand, it has been shown that ongoing exposure to radioactive Iodine is pretty dangerous to small children, and can be directly linked to thyroid cancers.

callmeslick

Sergeant Thorne wrote:Par for the coarse.

I'm avoiding the actual topic(per my words to Bettina earlier), but this is just one of those priceless examples of what public posting, coupled with dubious usage of English, can yield.

callmeslick

.....and deficit spending serves no purpose, ever........then, how did we ever survive the 1950s? A glance backwards to the years that brought us Elvis and the like will show this: 1. A massive deficit, relative to GDP due to war costs after WWII 2. More deficit spending for infrastructure, educatio...

callmeslick

Spidey wrote:Born and raised in North Philly, now living in the lower NE area.

some nice neighborhoods there. I have a few co-workers in that part of Philly. I don't really go into town much except for dinner, museums or the theater/concert thing, but, as cities go, it has a lot to offer.

callmeslick

And the alternative that you support by your blind allegiance to the other half of the problem is letting the government consume the wealth, and I do mean consume not re purpose on our behalf. They simply consume something like 75% of every penny they take in the name of spending it on our behalf! ...

callmeslick

Is it not true that politics is a belief system also? Seeing how a belief system can refer to religion, life stance, ideology, world view, or any number of other philosophies. It's also true that a that a political discussion is circular. to some extent true, but religious discussions hinge on fund...

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Slick I did search the convention of 2010 and payperview. I don't find a payper view anything. I find where some hacks set up a "convention" but it wasn't a convention of citizens/protestors to attend and listen and show their strength it was 'supposedly' set up for Tea Party Orginizers t...

callmeslick

Sure. I don't dislike taxes for taxes sake, but there are certain taxes that I disagree with. first off, thanks for the clarification.....it sort of seemed like your thoughts beat your hands to the keyboard on the first go-round. I see what you are saying above as common to all taxpayers. But, as a...

callmeslick

“They're gullible people that have genuine concerns about the state of our country who are being manipulated by powerful and wealthy individuals…” Wow, like you can’t say that about everyone that belongs to a political party. to some extent true..... :lol: ................ I do agree that the Paul ...

callmeslick

Ok, I should have made myself clearer, I’m speaking mostly in regards to income taxes. Yes, sales taxes are paid by just about everyone, but I was trying to limit the discussion to the revenue that provides for research grants. and, my point is that income taxes are but one of many revenue sources ...

callmeslick

[ I'd have more respect for Tea Partiers if they had started their protests on Bush's watch, but nary a peep until a Black Democrat gets elected president, then it's all about "Kill that big government"! Well, that big government really got going on Bush's watch, they should have spoke up...

callmeslick

Anyway, see you in the next debate where we may even agree...but it won't be about Islam. :wink: Bee fair enough! Actually, at the outset of coming to this forum, I told the person who invited me that I would generally avoid religious threads, because they tend to turn circular and go nowhere, as o...

callmeslick

I agree that the Tea Party was a very interesting idea at the time. From what I recall, it was an attempt to organize into a viable 3rd political party to combat the two existing ones, who seemed to be no different from each other. Now it looks like the Tea Party is an extension of the GOP, which i...

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Most of your opinion, and the bulk of that post is opinion, is based on, according to your own words: "the few in PA I've had a chance to speak with" Does this really qualify you for discussing the issue? yeah, it does. Aren't all qualified to discuss an issue, given a modicum of politica...

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[ What about the anti-conservative governmental practices that caused this "overall sinking" and bleak prospects for our children? To me reflections like that just smack of a lack of respect, attempts to understand an apparently contrary viewpoint notwithstanding. I'm going to go see if I...

callmeslick

I've decided to start this one, to sort of unite various Tea Party observations by myself and others, and lay out how and why I'm disappointed with where the movement went. At the outset, the localized Tea Party groups basically consisted of regular citizens, all with the common thead of being pisse...

callmeslick

A work relationship means nothing Slick. People usually put aside their differences at the workplace. I can attest to that, you really don’t know someone till you live with them. ok, how many Muslims have you(or any of the rest of you) lived with? I'll allow for dorm or other group situations(barra...

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as to the tea party thing, I think I'm going to start a new thread, and let you have at my views in that.....

callmeslick

It is a fact that people who receive income from tax generated revenue can pay no taxes, this can be easily demonstrated. The fact is, true taxation can only occur when a portion is taken out of wealth created in the private sector, all else is a book keeping gimmick. really? So, when a poor person...

callmeslick

After 9-11-2001 I got very interested in the region and have read a bit and paid attention to a lot of sources of info especially the live ones who lived there. well, feck all, if you aren't an expert. FWIW, I went to school and have worked my whole adult life with practicing muslims and still woul...

callmeslick

Seriously, I wait for you to equate the works of Jesus with the works of Mohammad. Bettina Bettina, I am not trying to equate their words, merely show the wide range of results due to actions in their names. Clearly, the tone of Jesus' message was gentler(I stated that a while back), but has to be ...

callmeslick

Better yet…How does commentary about civil unrest half way around the world have anything to do with xenophobia. (maybe you were looking for islamophobia) :wink: xenophobia=fear of those/that which is different. That is what manifests as Islamophobia, among other phobias. Oh, and to the question ab...

callmeslick

Spidey wrote:Rubes and luddites?

can be found on either side of the spectrum.

callmeslick

You do realize Slick, that people who went to the tea party rallies didn't do so because they were looking form a new political party. They went to protest a fat bloated govt. that in the last 4 or 5 years the debt increased 8 trillion dollars under the control of a Dem. controlled house and senate...

callmeslick

Yet... If the Tea Party draws some philosophy from a book they must all be considered followers of that books everyword? huh? Every word? Where did I write that? Tea party advocates frequently cite Ayn Rand as a guiding light, which is all I implied. Just pointing out your selective application of ...

callmeslick

I separated the taxpayer in this example, because they are a smaller group within the larger one. (federal income tax, as that is the source of federal research grants) EVERYONE pays taxes, whether footing a corporate tax bill by purchases, Federal Income tax or various fees, they are all part of t...

callmeslick

shame on you, Ferno, for introducing facts into a perfect good piece of xenophobia!

callmeslick

from the New Advent(Catholic online encyclopedia): "Nevertheless, with every allowance for exaggeration, Mohammed is shown by his life and deeds to have been a man of dauntless courage, great generalship, strong patriotism, merciful by nature, and quick to forgive. " doesn't quite sound li...

callmeslick

We're reaching a critical point where the number of voters that believe they can supplement their lifestyle by voting to have someone else pay for it is above 50%. Game over when that happens. And America has just had it's wake-up call: "S&P maintained its top-tier 'AAA/A-1+' credit rating...

callmeslick

ThunderBunny wrote:
Think of it as a bloodless revolution.
Will... It aint...gonna...happen.

There are too many drones (especially on the democrat side.) They will always go straight party ticket DEM.

you have exit polling data to back that claim up(insofar as there is a party difference)?

callmeslick

Egoists/Ayn Randees = Wannabees that don't have a snowball's chance in hell of getting super rich but still think it's possible = Screw all those who can't help themselves because of resentment = Tea Party. I think your equation overlooks that the whole movement is driven by a handful of greedy, we...

callmeslick

so, Spidey, what is your definiton of 'propaganda'? It would seem to be whatever you don't agree with. And you know this from our long relationship. no, which is why I said 'it would seem' as all I based that upon was your words to which I was responding. Where did I say I didn’t agree, I said it f...

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