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Shoku

It can be easily taken that way, but... let's consider Zeph 2:3. And after reading that, ask yourself this question "Would a just and loving God encourage people to do what is right, in hope of a reward, if he knew that they were foreordained not to succeed?" That would be pretty mean wou...

Shoku

Only the facts matter, and not everything taught anywhere is all true. I agree with that. But you said: The Bible is infallible gramatically. This obviously only applies to the original Greek and Hebrew. And that is wrong. Yes, the errors do not detract from the truth, but they are there neverthele...

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I just had to say this about your statement of the grammar in the bible being wrong. You haven't studied Greek from what you are telling me, so don't expound on its grammatical content. I haven't even heard from liberal sources that the Greek is incorrect. These things which do exist mean something...

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You just said that the Bible is falible grammatically, and therefore your statement above of the Bible being true, and the only truth is a contradiction. Find a single error in the grammar of the Bible please, and don't just say something. If we all did that, nobody would get anywhere because peopl...

Shoku

Don't just say something; back it up with specifics I have, you haven't been paying attention. If you see a passage that seems to conflict with another, then one of your interpretations of it is wrong. The Bible does not contradict itself. What I said earlier: "You are absolutely correct. Howe...

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These verses are speaking of people who are already saved. They can't lose their salvation because they have been regenerated, and are known by their fruits. It doesn't say anywhere that they can have their names taken from the book of life. I looked at the Greek for this one and it strengthens one...

Shoku

Can you show me the passage which speaks of 'blotting out' specifically? I think I remember something similar, and would like to study it and report results on that one. We do know that those who are saved have their names written in the 'Book of Life', but we don't see the Bible say anywhere that ...

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1. Context 2. Context 3. Context You are absolutely correct. However, context must include not only the particular book being read (like Ephesians), but the context of the entire Bible. Why? Well, if God's word is true, then what is said in one place must agree with what's stated elswhere. There is...

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Opps.

Shoku

This is not saying that because Adam disobeyed Gods command, God had to change plans. Gods ultimate purpose is His glory, and those whom he foreordained to salvation are part of that plan. When you quote something like that, you also need to take it into context. Actually I think the flaw in my arg...

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Well....sorry, but reading the lengthy dialogs which usually develop in these kinds of posts, none of the questions really get answered and I just get driven deeper into the no god world. Bettina You are absolutely right Bettina. The original question: Can you please explain how one can have free w...

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A SURAH in the Koran (or more accurately the AL-Quran)is the same as a CHAPTER in english. Surah 2 is AL-Baqarah Surah 4 is An-Nisa Surah 5 is Al-Maidah Surah 8 is Al-Anfal Surah 9 is At-Tauba There are 114 Surahs (chapters) in the Koran. These would be considered BOOKS if in the Bible. Pandora: I a...

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Whenever I get wind of a discussion about Islam and the violence instigated by some who follow that religion, I hang my head and sigh - this problem is not due to a few extrmeists. The violence is due to the religion. In all religions there are liberals (like Sunday Christians who only observe their...

Shoku

In the year 2005, The Lord came unto Noah, who was now living in United States, and said, "Once again, the earth has become wicked and over-populated and I see the end of all flesh before me. Build another Ark and save two of every living thing along with a few good humans." He gave Noah t...

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Interesting feedback to my comparison. And that's all that was intended: a comparison of the magnitude of the two events - the tsunammi and the Biblical end of the world. I never made mention of any DATES for the biblical event, only that, as stated in scripture, that is in COMMING at some future ti...

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Lobber, it is also said that "No one has knowledge of the time except God himself." That's what cracks me up about all the "preachers" predicting the end of the world. Trying to second-guess God? Doesn't sound very holy. :P The Prophet Zephaniah isn't proclaiming WHEN it will oc...

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The tsunami disaster in southeast Asia is a horrible result of the natural, but unpredictable process of plate tectonics. But as bad as it was, it is nothing to compare to what is coming, based on Biblical prophecy. One of the prophets said this: â??The great day of the LORD is near. It is near, and...

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Is it about obeying the law or about acting in a responsible manner?. . . It seems a bit selfish to say the least to speed along without regard to the safety of your fellow citizens and selfish behaviour is not "christian" is it? You are absolutely right - it is selfish to speed, and I di...

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...The Bible specifically says that while the authorities are acting the way they're supposed to, they hold moral authority over you.... Well at least that's a slightly better reason than: " We are to obey them out of respect for their position, which God has granted them to have. Paul says th...

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He's wrong. The Apostle Paul wrote to the Christians in Rome to "obey the superior authorities." The superior authorities are the governments that rule over us. We are to obey them out of respect for their position, which God has granted them to have. Paul says they are "God's ministe...

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Back to the skeleton thing: All conclusions, while based on factual findings, are the result of two things: the evidence, and the bias of the investigator. Conclusions that are extrapolated from limited evidence, should be viewed with skepticism; real science should encourage skepticism. I remember ...

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Interesting Article.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=315976

Shoku

shoku, you obviously are faithful to a god concept and that's fine, but when you start telling people you're right, they're wrong, and you offer no evidence, you lose credibility.. The physical laws are evidence. Our existence is evidence as per my statement above about the complexity of living cel...

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I don't believe you have misinterpreted what I said. I don't see where it requires an intelligence to have "designed" the universe. There universe is not chaotic; it is sustained by physical laws that govern just about everything. You cannot have order in nature by chance, Mindless chance...

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Drakona, To me, understanding the bible to satisfy everyone is almost impossible because six intelligent people can read it and each will form his or her own interpretation Why? Because the bible is written to mean all things to all people. The important point you make here is "To me." Th...

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Is there a God? If there is why is there so much suffering? The above questions have been asked for centuries. The responses have been much like the ones here on the DBB - full of hopeful or slanderous opinion, propelled by human philosophy and vulgar logic. From a Biblical perspective the answers a...

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I am an A minus honor student, and I'm lucky that I've always found things easy to learn and I often help my friends who aren't so lucky. I have a way of getting thru to a friend that a teacher doesn't have time for, but one thing I've noticed though, is that some kids just believe whatever theyâ??...

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This one is worth reading: The following is supposedly an actual question given on a University of Washington chemistry mid-term. The answer by one student was so "profound" that the professor shared it with colleagues,via the Internet, which is, of course, why we now have the pleasure of ...

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I disagree with Shoku here, we are not guilty by anything but our own sin. We inherited a sinful nature (the tendency to sin) from Adam, but God doesn't judge our sinful nature. God judges sin. The only thing God will judge you on is what you did . According to scripture (Jewish and Christian), sin...

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Call it what you want, but no god is going to blame me for something I personally didn't do. Your god is not anybody I want to know. Prejudice is based on ignorance, on belief in twisted facts. . . so is slander directed at God. Humans have a tendency to think they know better regarding just about ...

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If he was "perfect" he wouldn't have done that, now would he? Perfection in the Bible means that Adam was without flaw - and thereby existed in complete harmony with God's purpose for man, and had the prospect of living forever because of this. Being flawless does not remove the possibili...

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Since you guys are too complicated, I came up with this.... Bettina LOL :) You said earlier: But the point is, I'm not guilty of anything. I prayed to him more than any other person I think, and I never did anything to God. I'm not guilty of any wrong except in God's eyes who condemns me by associa...

Shoku

Why can't religious instructors answer my questions. Too many questions...no GOOD answers. You obviously either did not read my post to you, or you simply could not understand it, or you simply refused to understand it. I feel for you - loosing a parent is hard (I know - I lost my mother too), but ...

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For Bettina: You Said: "So god is getting even.....talk about holding a grudge. What about the poor little girl he just mentioned. Why should she have to suffer because of some rule that was broken a long time ago. If your god, assuming it exists, is playing a warped minded game for his own sad...

Shoku

To Drakona: You said: "Isn't that essentially saying that the ancient Jews believed that there were people in power over others. Hardly remarkable! And hardly warrant for calling a society polythestic." You are correct, it isn't very remarkable. It was just their view of things, the way th...

Shoku

Still in all it looks pretty random to me as to who suffers the most and who gets to have a "happily ever after" life. Yes it does. It was Mankind who rejected God, not God who rejected us. We are the living result of that bad decision. Death and suffering is all this life has to offer in...

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Back to the question, Is there a God? The following won't satisfy many people, it may satisfy some, but at this point does it really matter? Like any good father, God has allowed his children to make their own decisions, even if those decisions are against his advice. The chldren will reap what they...

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I know it's old, but what the hay, I haven't seen it before. The official God FAQ: http://www.400monkeys.com/God/index.html A very funny link [MS]Instig8. I've read through this post, and it is truly amazing how many different opinions there are about the existence of God. Ultimately it comes down ...

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Well, It's been eight days since I started this post, and only 11 replies. Guess you're right Sol (old name), to do D3 levels, one must do it for the love of doing it, and not because of the great crowd craving SP missions. Interest does seem rather slim, so for now the project is on hold.

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