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 Post subject: Re: Cruz vs Sanders, Obamacare debate!
PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 11:26 am 
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So I’m reading that article and thinking…yea this guy has a point…but then as per usual I get to the fucked up part…

So now we have another racially divisive term “white socialism” which of course is based on a lie and a misconception, and the misconception could easily be considered a lie, but I’m being generous.

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 Post subject: Re: Cruz vs Sanders, Obamacare debate!
PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 1:53 pm 
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not really, what he describes is a very real phenomenon, that resulted in defacto benefits to a mainly white lower middle class to upper middle class group. You might not like the charged term, but it is a sort of publicly funded gift that has traditionally been handed to the white collar and unionized blue collar labor, plus government workers. Jobs that until the 80s almost exclusively went to white people in America. The article notes a nostalgia to go back to THAT reality by some, preventing them from embracing what would be best for all. As you note, the author has a point, there.

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 Post subject: Re: Cruz vs Sanders, Obamacare debate!
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I could get behind this idea and it gets expensive insurance out of your regular doctor visits loop entirely. What does everyone think?

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/kind-doc ... 07240.html

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 Post subject: Re: Cruz vs Sanders, Obamacare debate!
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Noooo, paying for health care without insurance…the single payer crowd will never approve.

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Spidey wrote:
Noooo, paying for health care without insurance…the single payer crowd will never approve.

Nah, we just don't like insurance for this sort of thing in the first place.


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 Post subject: Re: Cruz vs Sanders, Obamacare debate!
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And just what the hell do you think single payer is?

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 Post subject: Re: Cruz vs Sanders, Obamacare debate!
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It's the same thing you have, except it doesn't cost as much.


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 Post subject: Re: Cruz vs Sanders, Obamacare debate!
PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 10:19 am 
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No one should need "insurance" for everyday doctor visits. Insurance should only be for catastrophic illnesses, you know, like house or car insurance is used for? :wink:

I noticed the stock market is tanking today. The excuse of the day is that the Trumpcare ain't going to pass Congress because the of Freedom Caucus and that they'll start blocking EVERYTHING Trump wants in the future. :P

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 Post subject: Re: Cruz vs Sanders, Obamacare debate!
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don't know who's floating THAT excuse, but mainly the issue today is interest rates seem stuck at a spot where the financial institution profits are stagnated as well. Tech stocks were doing fine, even hit a record on the NASDAQ for a wee bit. Big loser on the Dow was Goldman Sachs.

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 Post subject: Re: Cruz vs Sanders, Obamacare debate!
PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:09 pm 
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They were still floating it today on CNBC. Thursday's vote will tell. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Cruz vs Sanders, Obamacare debate!
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I personally hope the bill doesn't pass just to teach Ryan a lesson. They still have plenty of time before the 2018 season to get the dam thing right. Trump has to learn getting a bill passed just to prove a point will not sit well with the electorate. What ever happened to to the 2015 bill that had bipartisan support and got shot down by Obama?


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