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 Post subject: Re: How bad can it get? *the donald trump megathread*
PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 5:25 pm 
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onto other issues, like personal finance: Go locate a chart for calender year 2017 which shows USD exchange rate versus any currency from a major developed nation. US currency valuation is down 10% on average since Lord Dampnut took the helm. So, whenever a lemming from the Trump camp tries to tell you he's GREAT for the economy, remember that stocks are up essentially the same amount the dollar is down. Thus, investors in dollar-based stocks are pretty much standing still, but anyone paid in dollars, any saving dollars in US banks is absolutely fucked at this rate.

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"An interesting thing has been happening. I'm sure you've noticed it too. The "Never Trump" movement is merging into the mainstream. For those who don't know who the Never Trumpers are, they're the Republicans who opposed Trump before, during, after the election, and continue to do so to this day. Republican stalwarts like David Frum, Steve Schmidt, Ana Navarro, Bill Kristol and Rick Wilson.

Even my Republican pal that I argue with via email is starting to get a little wobbly in his love for Trump. For the past year, he's been a true believer. He even wears the MAGA hat on his Facebook profile picture. But lately, he says he "wants to look forward," and not dwell on the Boy Scouts incident, the ObamaCare fiasco, etc. Nothing to see there, after all... just more unpatriotic liberals trying to bring him down. But he finished up with this: "Bruce, I'm surprised at you. I figured you'd be happy to see that Trump's been replacing all his key people with Democrats."

And late last night, Joe Scarborough, who until just last month was a lifelong Republican, tweeted this: "There are no Republicans around Donald Trump and why should there be? He supported Hillary and Schumer and was a Democrat until he was 65."

Not so fast there guys. Donald Trump at his core is neither a Republican or a Democrat. He's a Trumpian. He's in it for himself. As for party allegiance, he's flip-flopped back and forth between them, between the issues, and between the tenets of each party's agenda for fifty years.

But let's be clear on this. To my Republican friends, whether true believers or late to the party Never Trumpers, you *own* this man. He's as connected to you as if he were your Siamese twin. He's registered as a Republican. He campaigned in the Republican primaries. He participated in the Republican debates. He funneled millions into Republican down-ticket races. He married himself to the Republican Party megaphone, Fox News. He ran AGAINST the Democratic candidate. And on Election Day 2016, a plurality of white, mostly blue-collar, rural, REPUBLICANS elected him. And of the "faith and values" crowd, 80% of them didn't so much as flinch when it came to pulling the lever for the man who boasted about sexual assault.

So nice try, but no cigar. Donald Trump isn't just a textbook conservative, he's one who's pushed right-wing values to every despot's fantasy: Fascism. And since fascism is the antipode to liberal ideology, that's yet more proof that your claim of Trump being secretly left-leaning is absurd on its face.

It's already been said by some historians that Trump will go down as one of our worst, if not THE worst president ever. (Let's hope we never endure anyone worse than him). But I'd take it a step further. In my opinion, with the exception of convicted rapists and murderers, etc., he's one of the worst PEOPLE in American history. He's as flawed a human being as I can imagine. He's a textbook sociopath, whose only concern is the welfare of Donald J. Trump.

Yet he was the choice of the party of Lincoln. Go figure.

So what motivated 62M Americans to cast their vote for him? Joe Sixpack: "He's a multi-millionaire businessman who won't take any shit from anyone. And he'll take the gloves off when dealing with our enemies." That's just great. The same was true of Meyer Lansky and Frank Costello. Only in their defense, neither of them was a narcissist. Nor were they particularly diplomatic, which is why they entered the line of work they did.

So here's this man, elected by the far-right wing of the Republican Party, embroiled in multiple scandals right out of the gate, and only now... only NOW we're seeing cracks in his base. But rather than admitting "Maybe we were wrong about him," their excuse is "What do you expect? He was never really a Republican."

No way. You own him. You fucking OWN him. When the Access Hollywood tape was released, you said nothing.
When he mocked a handicapped journalist, you said nothing.
When he called Mexicans "criminals and rapists," you said nothing.
When he went on a sexist tirade with Megyn Kelly, you said nothing.
When he promised to ban 1.3B people from coming to these shores based on their faith, you said nothing.
But now that he's up to his armpits in snakes, suddenly you think he's a closet liberal.

Sorry. He's all yours. In fact, he's YOU. And you are him. To suggest at this point in his disastrous presidency that he isn't, is the height of cowardice. Which frankly, seems to be yet another Republican trait. (Senators Collins, McCain and Murkowski, rare exceptions).

So no my email friend, when Trump's era ends, and it won't end well, I won't confine myself to "looking forward." I'll reflect on where we were, and how we got there. And I will never, EVER let you off the hook for your vote. I'll hang it around your neck like one of Trump's 4 foot long ties.

And no, Joe Scarborough, the fact that Trump may have contributed money to Clinton and Schumer in the past doesn't mean he's at heart a Democrat. The fact is, he has no heart. And your eleventh hour renouncing of the party of racism, bigotry, greed and corruption isn't fooling anyone. If you really wanted to stand against Trump on principle, the time to do that was two years ago—when you were giving him twelve hours of air time per month."
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 Post subject: Re: How bad can it get? *the donald trump megathread*
PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 12:49 pm 
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well, the Scaramucci era didn't last too long. This admin is a clusterfuck, although this particular move, I think reflects Kelly flexing muscle on Trump.

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I couldn't take a screenshot of Trump's latest tweet brag, so I copied it to post here. I love the fact he's bragging when he's done absolutely NOTHING. No healthcare reform, no tax reform, etc., etc. Never mind that the economy was going up and to the right long BEFORE Trump stepped into the WH. Any rise in the Stock Market due to the "Trump Effect" since the election is going to be hollow and ephemeral without any real legislation under his belt.

That "No WH chaos" line is a riot since "The Mooch" was just pushed out by Kelly. So now I'm waiting to see the fireworks between Kelly and Trump. Only ONE of those 2 men will tolerate being second banana and I don't think it will be Trump. :wink:

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Highest Stock Market EVER, best economic numbers in years, unemployment lowest in 17 years, wages raising, border secure, S.C.: No WH chaos!

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best response to that nonsense was a former Obama staffer who tweeted, " the words you are groping for are 'Thanks, Obama". Yes, you are seeing the Obama recovery survive Trump, SO FAR. With the dropping currency valuation(continued today, drip,drip, drip) it's only going to help SOME in the investor class from here on in.

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reporting has it that Kelly called Comey and offered to resign alongside him, Comey talked him down from it. Kelly, it seems more and more is acting out of an ingrained sense of the 'good of the nation' and doesn't really care for Trump or his flunkies all that much. Oh, and the RNC put out an order to 'secure' all records related to Russian interference and contacts.

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best response to that nonsense was a former Obama staffer who tweeted, " the words you are groping for are 'Thanks, Obama". Yes, you are seeing the Obama recovery survive Trump, SO FAR. With the dropping currency valuation(continued today, drip,drip, drip) it's only going to help SOME in the investor class from here on in.


But slick, if the economy fails, Trump will blame either Obama, Hillary or the Dems for the whole fiasco! He'll NEVER take the ownership of his own epic fail.

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reporting has it that Kelly called Comey and offered to resign alongside him, Comey talked him down from it. Kelly, it seems more and more is acting out of an ingrained sense of the 'good of the nation' and doesn't really care for Trump or his flunkies all that much. Oh, and the RNC put out an order to 'secure' all records related to Russian interference and contacts.


Well this cage match will be an epic showdown. Trump's got to be the worst manager is history. He can't pick good people to work with most of the time, and the good ones he does manage to snag who have half an ounce of integrity and smarts usually either end up fired or else resigning over some piddling little insult to Trump's massive ego.

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But slick, if the economy fails, Trump will blame either Obama, Hillary or the Dems for the whole fiasco! He'll NEVER take the ownership of his own epic fail.

doesn't matter. At this point, he owns it. 75% of the naton knows it(you should see the folks down in rural VA starting to turn on him, over the healthcare lies).

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reporting has it that Kelly called Comey and offered to resign alongside him, Comey talked him down from it. Kelly, it seems more and more is acting out of an ingrained sense of the 'good of the nation' and doesn't really care for Trump or his flunkies all that much. Oh, and the RNC put out an order to 'secure' all records related to Russian interference and contacts.


Well this cage match will be an epic showdown. Trump's got to be the worst manager is history. He can't pick good people to work with most of the time, and the good ones he does manage to snag who have half an ounce of integrity and smarts usually either end up fired or else resigning over some piddling little insult to Trump's massive ego.


it will be no contest. Kelly will eat him alive and grease the skids, maybe for Pence, too.

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it will be no contest. Kelly will eat him alive and grease the skids, maybe for Pence, too.


Well, you're forgetting one little detail slick. Trump is THEE Commander in Chief. He can fire Kelly at the drop of a hat.

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callmeslick wrote:
best response to that nonsense was a former Obama staffer who tweeted, " the words you are groping for are 'Thanks, Obama". Yes, you are seeing the Obama recovery survive Trump, SO FAR. With the dropping currency valuation(continued today, drip,drip, drip) it's only going to help SOME in the investor class from here on in.



Well, if you're looking, the Canadian dollar is starting to grow in strength again - and with the proposed infrastructure investments it might be a good bet.


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it will be no contest. Kelly will eat him alive and grease the skids, maybe for Pence, too.


Well, you're forgetting one little detail slick. Trump is THEE Commander in Chief. He can fire Kelly at the drop of a hat.


oh, there is a game that can be played in which Trump could be rendered neutered. Kelly knows people that Trump will never have the trust of.

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A solidly conservative woman, Peggy Noonan, just gave America a YUGE ball-busting diatribe about Donald J. Trump. I can't get the whole column since the WSJ has a paywall, but this site gives us most of the gist of her column. I couldn't have unloaded on our drama queen of a president better myself.

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/ ... tes-trump/

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Trump's WH is leakier than the Titanic and sinking just as fast. The coverup is what always gets them in trouble too. They never learn. :roll:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

And then there's a some updated news concerning this since retracted Fox News conspiracy theory about the murder of Seth Rich, which shows that Trump was aware of, or even involved with, one of the weirdest conspiracy theories put forth by conservatives.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pol ... onspiracy/

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Bill Browder's Testimony. 1h:45m and worth every second.

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Financier and former Russia investor William Browder testified at a hearing on the Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA). This law requires those representing the political interests of foreign powers to disclose their relationship. Mr. Browder told committee members that the Kremlin-linked lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya, who met with Donald Trump Jr. was heading Russian efforts to get sanctions under the Magnitsky Act repealed. The act blocked Russian government officials and businessmen associated with the death of Russian lawyer Sergei Magnitsky from entering the U.S., froze assets in U.S. banks, and banned the use of American banking systems.

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Someone call him the wahmbulance.

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Mueller has a Grand Jury either selected or in the process. Trump himself is perfectly eligible to be called. To a grand jury deposition. With NO knowledge of what has been testified to, or discovered by the people asking questions of you under oath. This, a man who lies about getting phone calls. How bad can it get, FOR Trump?? No bottom in sight.

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Some conservatives in the Republican Party are actually waking up from their delusional dreams of a grand and wonderful Trump presidency. At least one is admitting that by blindly defending this narcissistic and unstable egomaniac of a president, he and his fellow Republicans are tainting the integrity of his party.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/ ... ump-215442

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...that makes it sound as if the tainting just started yesterday or something..... :roll:

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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/08/worl ... tions.html



and you can hear the dick sucking all the way to the other side of the continent.

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Ferno, the video you posted is disabled for viewing at websites other than youtube.

I love the fact that both of these "dick suckers" are no longer working for Trump. It shows you that even giving great blow jobs doesn't guarantee loyalty or job security. Serves 'em right. :P

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Former Chief of Staff Reince Priebus and former Press Secretary Sean Spicer both wanted the privilege of delivering the 20-to-25-page packet to President Trump personally, White House sources say.


This guy has got to be the supreme Trump dick sucker of all. Devin Nunes, who supposedly stepped aside from the Russia investigation, secretly sent his staffers over to Britain last weekend to pay a little unannounced and unknown to the rest of the House Intelligence Committee (including the Republicans) visit with Christopher Steele, the former British MI6 officer, to perhaps "talk" to him about the "Golden Showers Russia" memo, perhaps with subversion of the Mueller investigation into Trump's ties with Russia in mind. :wink:

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/0 ... sia-241299

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... ?CMP=fb_gu

and another notch on the belt.


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The president of the United States is now a neo-Nazi sympathizer

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Stop being a Nazi sympathizer, asshole!

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*looks at sun*

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the interweb is having great fun with that one, as is the cover editor of the New York Daily News.

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Trump's secret Afghanistan war plan. A very not-so-secret strategy of attrition....ours. :roll:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-s-af ... it-victory

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Where's the conservative outrage over the exorbitant expenses this bastard is running up like there's no tomorrow?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

And speaking of spending taxpayer money for those ego-boosting rallies of Trump's, whoops, I mean the worlds most public presidential blow jobs in history, I'd like to be reimbursed BIG TIME for that, BELIEVE ME. So THAT'S why he had those little half height curtains installed at the sides of his podium, to hide that blue steel boner he gets every time all those Trumptards he surrounds himself with scream in adulation. :wink:

Oh, and I think the Washington Post will need to update their Trump top 1000 fib list after last night's rally in Arizona. :roll:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fac ... 2670fd117d

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics ... 912db54f09

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Well done, Trump. You just made it more expensive for the people who voted for you to buy homes.

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Well done, Trump. You just made it more expensive for the people who voted for you to buy homes.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/report- ... e36039527/


This one is costing me. I need to replace an old section of cedar fence. Our suppliers used to get their cedar fence boards from Canada since our forests are all tapped out. Now we have to get it from Japan or China because of Trump's little tariff on Canadian softwoods. Bastard. :x

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"I know the hurricane is coming but we have to check your papers!"

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"I know the hurricane is coming but we have to check your papers!"

https://qz.com/1062835/hurricane-harvey ... -in-texas/


Well, it does make a little sense. A hurricane would be good cover for a few illegals to try to get into the U.S. Hell, no one's around if they have even a modicum of self-preservation.


http://i.imgur.com/x3nLPGy.png

NS keeps bitching about Fascism. Well, here's a great example of creeping Fascism. What Trump did when he pardoned convicted profiler Sheriff Joe Arpaio, who hadn't even been sentenced by the courts yet either, smacks of Banana Republic tactics and is a direct assault on our country's rule of law. Bye, bye fair justice.


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Arpaio is one of the most obviously fascist pieces of shit I can think of.


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Honestly, we should start to expect this shit now.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 16476.html


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Getting rid of Obama's flood risk rule may speed up rebuilding efforts as Trump claims, but NOW, everyone will just rebuild in the same old fashion and in the same flood prone areas and the next time a hurricane of this magnitude occurs again, which it will, everyone in the U.S. will share the pain through higher insurance premiums. Moron.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-rescin ... 11209.html

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Rafael Lemaitre, former director of public affairs at the Federal Emergency Management Agency, told the news service that Trump was undoing "the most significant action taken in a generation" to protect infrastructure from climate change.

"Eliminating this requirement is self-defeating. We can either build smarter now or put taxpayers on the hook to pay exponentially more when it floods. And it will," he added.


And speaking of building in flood-prone locations, even in 500 year locations, how in the hell does something like THIS happen in the world's richest nation? These are seniors sitting in wheelchairs AND the cold and dirty floodwater from Harvey. Fer cripes sake, the cat in the background is the only one who's dry. :shock:

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Too busy building weapons, and paying for those 'trickle down' tax cuts.


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Even a military man can't manage Trump. If Kelly had his way, Trump would be 4F'd. :wink:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump ... 41542.html

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And now with their repeal of obamacare on the ground...

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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/18/us/p ... later.html

This shit is literally writing itself.


This shit ain't even funny anymore Ferno. Me and a few million other individual American's situation in a nutshell. If Trump doesn't get rid of the mandate, I'm screwed because I can't afford a what amounts to a 2018 healthcare premium that now rivals a home mortgage. Shit!

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/ ... yptr=yahoo

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rivals a home mortgage?? Seriously? I pay $2275 per month, a tad more than most mortgages run, I figure.

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How does approximately $7000 a year sound? Just for one person, me. That would have been the total of my premiums for 2017, IF I'd signed up, which I didn't.

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