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 Post subject: Re: The stupid that just makes you stop in your tracks.
PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:50 pm 
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Top Gun wrote:
...are you being deliberately fucking obtuse? YOU SAID that someone called you a Nazi for disagreeing with them. Right fucking here:

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IE: 'I don't like what you've said from fifteen years ago so you're a NAZI!' (yes this actually happened, but i'm sworn not to repeat the details).


Okay. First, you missed the fact I wasn't talking about myself. It was a paraphrasing of an incident that happened in the states and I was privy to inside information. Second, it's not an isolated case as you say, it's actually a pervasive and toxic viewpoint that's taken hold - juxtaposed by what's been happening on more than one campus. Disagree with someone on an idea, call them a nazi; or xenophobe; or racist; or <insert caustic statement here>. Or have them barred from speaking at your campus or function. Do try to keep up.

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Oh, and I missed the part where "rape culture" was something that only exists on college campuses, because that would be a batshit insane thing to say. Care to enlighten me where that's coming from?


It is a batshit insane thing to believe in, but given the fact you agreed with the letter right after I posted it is telling me that you are turning a blind eye to the batshit.

Rape culture is an idea coined in the 1970's by second wave feminists and was used very judiciously, but has now been turned into a weapon for censorship and hysteria.

And I'm not the only one saying this. In the last few years, there has been an unfortunate trend towards blaming “rape culture” for the extensive problem of sexual violence on campuses. While it is helpful to point out the systemic barriers to addressing the problem, it is important to not lose sight of a simple fact: Rape is caused not by cultural factors but by the conscious decisions, of a small percentage of the community, to commit a violent crime.

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Ferno, I also don't believe in a rape culture on campus. But I think the real problem in college campuses is the partying and accompanied alcohol use and abuse, which does lead to an increased opportunity for rapes to be committed against women, in the right settings and circumstances.
Colleges and Universities have been this way since the frat house was invented. We can discuss possible solutions in a different thread.

But right now, here's some more stupid for you.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news ... a-11143338


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 Post subject: Re: The stupid that just makes you stop in your tracks.
PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 2:41 pm 
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What do you think of this Ferno? Did the Obama Administration's Campus Sex Assault Rules go a little too far, as our current Secretary of Education, Betsy DeVos, believes? As much as I think she's a Trump flake, I think she's right in this case, that those rules went a little too far by depriving the rights of the accused.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/07/us/d ... -rape.html

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 Post subject: Re: The stupid that just makes you stop in your tracks.
PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 11:38 pm 
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Little late in the night for me to chew on that, but I found this gem

http://www.nwahomepage.com/news/knwa/wh ... t-this-law

it's like.. holy shit.


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 Post subject: Re: The stupid that just makes you stop in your tracks.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:48 pm 
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Oh, we've got one of those scumbags. An infamous Corvallis slumlord doing business under several names in the past as Bula Enterprises or The Red Door Realty and now as Rising Realty. :roll:

http://www.gazettetimes.com/news/local/ ... 03286.html

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/07/342107.shtml

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/corvall ... g-kip-scho

http://www.corvallisadvocate.com/2015/r ... ttle-else/

But I've got a winner from Alex Jones. Trump has even praised this guy like he's the most knowledgeable person since Einstein. Maybe now, not so much.

http://www.oregonlive.com/today/index.s ... d_say.html

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 Post subject: Re: The stupid that just makes you stop in your tracks.
PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:22 pm 
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Tunnelcat wrote:
What do you think of this Ferno? Did the Obama Administration's Campus Sex Assault Rules go a little too far, as our current Secretary of Education, Betsy DeVos, believes? As much as I think she's a Trump flake, I think she's right in this case, that those rules went a little too far by depriving the rights of the accused.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/07/us/d ... -rape.html



Okay, now I can jump into this.

First off, the idea of rewriting the rules to protect both the accused and the accuser is a good step, and it's sort of like our justice system. But without seeing the plan in detail, I can only offer a few surface thoughts. If the rules account for presumtion of innocence before guilt, then it will be a benefit for all involved. It should cut down on the frivolous and fabricated cases, and it should raise the bar for evidence presented. As for the response posted y Mr. Duncan, I think he benefits from the frivolity. To what end, I don't know.

Fact of the matter is, if you have the wrongly accused attempting (and sometimes succeeding in) suicide, that is a huge indicator of a problem.


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 Post subject: Re: The stupid that just makes you stop in your tracks.
PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:24 am 
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Like you said, I'd also like to see the details of her change in the rules. I agree that if justice is to be served in any criminal case, the accused needs to have a presumption of innocence. The only problem on the victim side is, women generally tend to be put through an embarrassing ringer during the investigation and in court whenever they make a rape accusation. However, I'm not blind to the fact that the opposite is sometimes true, that some women will use a fake rape accusation as a means to destroy an innocent man's reputation and life. There needs to be a happy medium for both sides in all this.

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 Post subject: Re: The stupid that just makes you stop in your tracks.
PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 12:42 am 
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So what if they are put through some embarrassment? The courts' job is to find out the truth and embarrassment doesn't even factor into it.

Being in court is brutal, ugly and vicious. People go into a rage. People break down crying. But it needs to be done to serve justice.

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Hey, let's fight anything that might help strengthen the power grid in case of disaster and ban anyone from using their own power source, because reasons!

http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/miami ... ma-9666311


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 Post subject: Re: The stupid that just makes you stop in your tracks.
PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 11:37 am 
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http://abc7chicago.com/university-gun-s ... s/2420158/

2nd paragraph...

Edit: one of those days I guess.

https://www.policeone.com/bizarre/artic ... lown-mask/


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 Post subject: Re: The stupid that just makes you stop in your tracks.
PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 7:59 pm 
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I guess it looks like these people are going to be looking for new jobs...


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