Cleaning House, Need CPU Diagnosis Info

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Cleaning House, Need CPU Diagnosis Info

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I'm trying to clean house and get rif of all these hundreds of PC parts lying around in my garage. To assist in the process of determining which parts were functional and which were toast I set up an open case PC system. This allows me to get a good working PC configuration running then quickly swap out similar parts to see which are working and which are not.

So, I have this A7N8X Deluxe r2 based system up and running with an Athlon Thunderbird CPU and all is well. I remove the working processor and test three other processors and here are the results ... am I missing something are all of these CPUs toast? I am finding it really hard to toss them in the garbage ...


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0) Thunderbord Core 1.4 (Palomino) : System starts up, no problems detected.
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1) Barton Core 3000+ : System starts up then completely shuts off after a few seconds.

2) Barton Core 2500: System starts up but never posts.

3) Barton Core 2600 : System starts up then completely shuts off after a few seconds.


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Post by fliptw »

thermal paste.

sounds like the overheat protection is kicking in.
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I assume you are speaking of the 3000 and the 2600? That could be the prob since I did this all as fast as I could. I will take my time tonight and do it right w/AS5.

As far as the 2500 ... mebbe its just plain dead?

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Did you try clearing the BIOS as well?
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Why clear the BIOS when I have verified that the MB works just fine with another processor?
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Disciple wrote:Why clear the BIOS when I have verified that the MB works just fine with another processor?
To rule out incompatible settings. By the way, my post was prior to your edit.
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Cool ... yeah, I edited to clear it up
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Thats not it ... cleared CMOS ... took my time w/the AS5 ... same problems.

BTW: Just for funsies, I bought ANOTHER 2500 on EBay and tried it out ... guess what it does ...

4) Barton Core 2500 - System starts up then completely shuts off after a few seconds.

Wondering if there is some sort of jumper setting to switch between old palominos and the newer athlons/durons ...
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OMG ... found this ... will check out tomorrow ...

http://www.a7vtroubleshooting.com/info/cpu/index.htm
**A7V266 and A7V266-E: set Jumper\"PALO_FREQ\" to the Palomino Jumper-Settings:
PALO_FREQ (FID0-3) = 1-2 ; If you want to multiplier overclock maybe you have to leave it at 2-3.

Leave the THEM_CPU Jumper at \"Athlon/Duron\" !
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Post by Zantor »

The Atlon Thunderbird has a Thunderbird core, not a Palomino core.

In my knowledge, the A7N8X does not support the older Athlon Tbirds and Durons.

ALWAYS, ALWAYS ALWAYS use thermal paste/heat grease/heat transfer compound on a CPU! ALWAYS, SINCE the Intel P1/AMD K6 days!
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Post by Krom »

Yes a thermal compound is a requirement since I seem to recall reading somewhere that modern processors put out more heat per square meter then the surface of the sun.
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Post by Disciple »

I always do use thermal paste, I just didn't use Arctic Silver the first time.
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Zangarath wrote:The Atlon Thunderbird has a Thunderbird core, not a Palomino core.

In my knowledge, the A7N8X does not support the older Athlon Tbirds and Durons.

ALWAYS, ALWAYS ALWAYS use thermal paste/heat grease/heat transfer compound on a CPU! ALWAYS, SINCE the Intel P1/AMD K6 days!
Thunderbird is the MODEL not the core. Do your research before posting in the future, mmmk?

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Oh, thermal paste has been in use way longer than the pentium days. :roll:
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LOL!! :twisted:
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