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It is on my wife's laptop it took me about 5 minutes to decide I don't want anything to do with it and that has not changed yet. I hate doing most anything on it Tech wise. It will never be on mine either.JMEaT wrote:No problems with Vista on my work machine. It's not touching my home machines however.
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>shudder<Foil wrote:Interesting. Of all the problems people keep telling me about Vista, I've never experienced a single one. Runs great on my main desktop and laptop, and has never crashed (something I can't say of my old XP install, or my XP x64 work machine).
Vista requires WAY to much power just to run the UI and other such stuff, the backwards compatibility is horrible (for me), and the whole "Tell me more about..." links thing makes me feel like it thinks I'm stupid.
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Jim Louderback of PC Magazine wrote:VISTA DEATH SPIRAL ACCELERATES: We will see the first service pack for Windows Vista in 2008, but it won't help. The latest version of Windows will remain a bloated, unstable, unappealing, and slow system. Although most PCs will ship with Vista, most users will long for XP. Sure, networking will get better, and maybe the current crop of drivers will improve. But don't hold your breath. By the end of 2008, Vista will be even more despised than it is today.
Oh, and even more bad news for Vista. It'll own a huge chunk of the computer market by December, making it irresistible for hackers worldwide. Expect to see some major Vista nastybots crop up this year.
I've been using Vista long enough now to realize it’s not as bad as people say. I don't see the bloat-ware. If you add/remove the junk you don't need it runs great, and the system I'm running it on is by no means a super computer. It's a humble Core Duo 1.8 GHz and 1.5GB RAM on a 5400 RPM drive and a Intel Mobile graphics chip. I run the Aero Glass interface with no lag or slowdowns.
Security wise, it is way ahead of XP with its virtualization used in system folders and IE7. I work at a help desk a few days out of the week and our IT dept. has a quarantine system in place that reports/locks a computer that is infected with malware. The only machines that roll in are mostly XP machines. Vista is very rare to see (And it makes up the majority of the systems on our campus). The others are Macs, and they come in about the same frequency as Vista (We actually see less Vista machines than Macs)
Mac OSX 10.5.1 really doesn’t like our wireless network here (We use 802.1x, RADIUS). I think 10.5 was more of a joke than Vista, IMHO (Not knocking the Mac users here.)
If you turn off most of the bells and whistles of Vista, it performs on par with XP, in an office environment at least. I do not use the OS on my personal gaming rigs. The UAC, while annoying, does prevent Joe User from screwing up the system. If you are an advanced user, it's easy to turn off to revert to XP's Admin functionality. Last month's MaximumPC mag had a review of a Vista gaming rig that ran faster than their XP machine (Not in all areas, but it's a start). Link: Read page 44 I think developers are learning to code smarter in Vista, and MS is (slowly) fixing the gaming side of the OS.
I don't think SP1 is going to change Vista that much. The only thing that it fixes that I am looking forward to are the sometimes strange hiccups in file moves.
Vista is no different than XP was back in the day. We all clutched tight to our Win98 SE boxes swearing against the evil XP upgrade and bloated OS.
How history repeats, eh?![Wink ;)](./images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
Security wise, it is way ahead of XP with its virtualization used in system folders and IE7. I work at a help desk a few days out of the week and our IT dept. has a quarantine system in place that reports/locks a computer that is infected with malware. The only machines that roll in are mostly XP machines. Vista is very rare to see (And it makes up the majority of the systems on our campus). The others are Macs, and they come in about the same frequency as Vista (We actually see less Vista machines than Macs)
Mac OSX 10.5.1 really doesn’t like our wireless network here (We use 802.1x, RADIUS). I think 10.5 was more of a joke than Vista, IMHO (Not knocking the Mac users here.)
If you turn off most of the bells and whistles of Vista, it performs on par with XP, in an office environment at least. I do not use the OS on my personal gaming rigs. The UAC, while annoying, does prevent Joe User from screwing up the system. If you are an advanced user, it's easy to turn off to revert to XP's Admin functionality. Last month's MaximumPC mag had a review of a Vista gaming rig that ran faster than their XP machine (Not in all areas, but it's a start). Link: Read page 44 I think developers are learning to code smarter in Vista, and MS is (slowly) fixing the gaming side of the OS.
I don't think SP1 is going to change Vista that much. The only thing that it fixes that I am looking forward to are the sometimes strange hiccups in file moves.
Vista is no different than XP was back in the day. We all clutched tight to our Win98 SE boxes swearing against the evil XP upgrade and bloated OS.
How history repeats, eh?
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Yes, I remember that well, and is why I don't like it when people say that Vista is god-awful now and that's not gonna change: XP was just as awful at the start of it's life too, before the kinks were sorted out.JMEaT wrote:Vista is no different than XP was back in the day. We all clutched tight to our Win98 SE boxes swearing against the evil XP upgrade and bloated OS.
How history repeats, eh?
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That's been my experience as well.JMEaT wrote:If you add/remove the junk you don't need it runs great...
If you turn off most of the bells and whistles of Vista, it performs on par with XP, in an office environment at least.
The only thing I really don’t like about Vista is the Defragmenter, I have learned to live with everything else. (almost)
Although I would really like to ★■◆● slap the idiot who decided that when you change “when the machine sleeps” the Monitor time also changes, and it kinda becomes a Laurel and Hardy routine setting the thing.
I think Vista should have been sold only on new machines, selling it as an upgrade was a big mistake.
Although I would really like to ★■◆● slap the idiot who decided that when you change “when the machine sleeps” the Monitor time also changes, and it kinda becomes a Laurel and Hardy routine setting the thing.
I think Vista should have been sold only on new machines, selling it as an upgrade was a big mistake.
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I think you have that backwards, rather than being force fed Vista on a new machine, I'd rather have it be an optional "upgrade" (if you can call it that). It would have saved me the couple hours I had to spend formatting, installing XP and tracking down drivers for my laptop.Spidey wrote:I think Vista should have been sold only on new machines, selling it as an upgrade was a big mistake.
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Oh, I had forgoten about that. I also despise the defragmenter. >:OSpidey wrote:The only thing I really don’t like about Vista is the Defragmenter,.
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My computer automatically defrags every 24 hours in XP using the command line defragger run from task scheduler. And when I need to defrag a computer I always use the command line one to do it, because it *is* a little bit faster. Although if you don't like the Vista defrag because it doesn't show you anything useful, you will definitely hate the command line one because it tells you practically nothing (unless you use the -v switch).
On my last trip to Melbourne in November 2007 , I spoke to a small business operator (IT / networking / PC build & repair business). He told me the last 32 jobs he had done were all removing Vista and reinstalling XP.
Vista may well be fine if you work in a large organisation with a dedicated IT dept. - or if you're proficient enough to build / repair your own gear ...but IMHO, for the average SOHO / SME family busienss, Vista is a disaster of epic proportions.
Does this mirror anyone elses' experience?
Vista may well be fine if you work in a large organisation with a dedicated IT dept. - or if you're proficient enough to build / repair your own gear ...but IMHO, for the average SOHO / SME family busienss, Vista is a disaster of epic proportions.
Does this mirror anyone elses' experience?
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I've been running the release of SP1 that got released to reviewers this past week, I have seen some peformance increases, like my file transfer speeds on my wireless network have almost doubled, so thats been really nice.
And best of all the system that I've been running it on is a 1.6 Ghtz Celeron.
And best of all the system that I've been running it on is a 1.6 Ghtz Celeron.