Fiddler
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Fiddler
In the Steven Erikson \"Malazan Book of the Dead\" series, there is a character named Fiddler. Fiddler is a guy who has a lot of common sense and knows how to get the job done when tasked to do so. There is also another guy who is not named Fiddler but knew how to play a fiddle while Rome burned around him. Obama seems now to be more like the latter than the former.
The much awaited decision on sending more troops to Afghanistan has been shelved as it seems Glorious Leader knows better how to prosecute a war than his choice to run the Afghan war or all those people who are in his cabinet with vastly more experience than he has. I guess Obama thinks 147 \"present\" votes are the way to handle his tenure as POTUS.
While it is laudable that Obama is concerned about Hamid Karzai's being corrupt, he fails to understand that we did not go into Afghanistan nor are we in there now, to set up a socialist govt. in Obama's image. We are there to keep the Taliban from taking over with the resultant AQ return.
Obama has stated he wants time to make sure that his Afghan policy is done right. Too bad he didn't consider that with his stimulus plan nor how he wanted the health care plan rammed through. Cheney's use of the pejorative \"dithering\" is becoming more apt by the day as Obama seems incapable of making the hard decisions a president must make. Like a certain other fiddler, Obama will one day face the consequences of his ineptitude. Lets hope the body count doesn't get too high.
The much awaited decision on sending more troops to Afghanistan has been shelved as it seems Glorious Leader knows better how to prosecute a war than his choice to run the Afghan war or all those people who are in his cabinet with vastly more experience than he has. I guess Obama thinks 147 \"present\" votes are the way to handle his tenure as POTUS.
While it is laudable that Obama is concerned about Hamid Karzai's being corrupt, he fails to understand that we did not go into Afghanistan nor are we in there now, to set up a socialist govt. in Obama's image. We are there to keep the Taliban from taking over with the resultant AQ return.
Obama has stated he wants time to make sure that his Afghan policy is done right. Too bad he didn't consider that with his stimulus plan nor how he wanted the health care plan rammed through. Cheney's use of the pejorative \"dithering\" is becoming more apt by the day as Obama seems incapable of making the hard decisions a president must make. Like a certain other fiddler, Obama will one day face the consequences of his ineptitude. Lets hope the body count doesn't get too high.
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...do you love meeeee????...Gooberman wrote:Tradition!
Me too, but mine had relevance .
Selective outrage is a beautiful thing.
Tradition!
link\"I think it is a curious comment,\" Gibbs also said, \"I think it is pretty safe to say that the vice president was for seven years not focused on Afghanistan. Even more curious given the fact that an increase in troops sat on desks in this White House including the vice president's for more than eight months - a resource request filled by President Obama in March.\"
Selective outrage is a beautiful thing.
Tradition!
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For 10 years I've debated you most,Duper wrote:...do you love meeeee????...Gooberman wrote:Tradition!
pointed out facts,
refuted your posts.
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No, Goob, I'm asking you a Question..Gooberman wrote:For 10 years I've debated you most,Duper wrote:...do you love meeeee????...Gooberman wrote:Tradition!
pointed out facts,
refuted your posts.
lol
(g1)
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Sure, war and peace aren't mutually exclusive.Spidey wrote:Can you escalate a war after getting a peace prize?
I haven't lost my mind, it's backed up on disk somewhere.
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This comment was made over a year ago in Nashua, New Hampshire while he was running for President. Yet he is still not willing to take the necessary step to get the job done does he?Obama wrote:"We've got to get the job done there and that requires us to have enough troops so that we're not just air-raiding villages and killing civilians, which is causing enormous pressure over there."
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A little bit of nuance to add to your selective outrage.Gooberman wrote:Selective outrage is a beautiful thing.
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His choice of language is definitely trying to convince me of something different happening, but the facts he references back up the claim that it is a bit rediculous for Cheney to be leveling these charges.dissent wrote:A little bit of nuance to add to your selective outrage.Gooberman wrote:Selective outrage is a beautiful thing.
The troop requests...were made by then-Gen. David McKiernan. McKiernan started off making individual requests for brigades, and that list kept growing.
Prioritizing Iraq over Afganistan.Officials from that time say that demands in Iraq prevented the Bush administration from fulfilling the requests until just before Bush left office.
There was a saying when I got there: If you're in Iraq and you need something, you ask for it. If you're in Afghanistan and you need it, you figure out how to do without it
McKiernan’s troop requests ultimately added up to roughly 30,000 more troops, a combination of combat units and support troops.
Which leads me back to.........tradition!So as McKiernan’s outstanding requests for more forces accumulated throughout 2008 to roughly 30,000 soldiers, President Bush sent at least 6,800 troops – months and months after the requests had come in. (and only 22% at that)