Happy 101010 (/epic triadic binary lesson)

Isaac · Post by **Isaac** » Sun Oct 10, 2010 7:49 am

It's 10 - 10 - 10! I'm celebrating by staying in my room and studying for a test on Monday... Viva 101010!!

Heretic · Post by **Heretic** » Sun Oct 10, 2010 7:52 am

Malformed binary. Your binary code must be divisible by 8

Isaac · Post by **Isaac** » Sun Oct 10, 2010 8:07 am

Hahha! Oh man, I would get the time code \"October 10, 2010 10:10am\" but I've now got to be somewhere by 10 (central time)!

Krom · Post by **Krom** » Sun Oct 10, 2010 8:32 am

Heretic wrote:Malformed binary. Your binary code is must be divisible by 8

Binary can be a string any length, the only limitation is it must be made of only zeroes and ones. 6 bits is just as valid as 8.

Heretic · Post by **Heretic** » Sun Oct 10, 2010 9:45 am

I was thinking more along lines as below.

Computers usually manipulate bits in groups of a fixed size, conventionally named \"words\". The number of bits in a word varies with the computer model; typically between 8 to 80 bits; or even more in some specialized machines.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bit

Alter-Fox · Post by **Alter-Fox** » Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:04 am

And DNA \"words\" are in groups of 3 base pairs.
But they're called \"codons\".
And many of you probably know this already.

Sickone · Post by **Sickone** » Sun Oct 10, 2010 12:46 pm

Actually I always arguer the point the an 'int' varies in size from processor to processor. A word is 16 bits.

In any case, since some of my early work was on 4 bit processors. I certainly don't judge someone's bianary by it's length... Just like a bunch of guys.
\"My binary is longer than your binary\"

snoopy · Post by **snoopy** » Sun Oct 10, 2010 1:24 pm

Yay 101010 day!

Ferno · Post by **Ferno** » Sun Oct 10, 2010 2:20 pm

Heretic wrote:Malformed binary. Your binary code must be divisible by 8

binary is base two.

http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Binary.html

/slap

Heretic · Post by **Heretic** » Sun Oct 10, 2010 3:25 pm

Heretic wrote:I was thinking more along lines as below.

Computers usually manipulate bits in groups of a fixed size, conventionally named "words". The number of bits in a word varies with the computer model; typically between 8 to 80 bits; or even more in some specialized machines.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bit

/dick

Sirius · Post by **Sirius** » Sun Oct 10, 2010 5:42 pm

Not being grouped into a full word doesn't make the binary \"malformed\", though. It's just numbers.

Jeff250 · Post by **Jeff250** » Mon Oct 11, 2010 12:41 am

Intel calls 16 bits a word on x86, but that's because they are trying to preserve decades of backwards compatibility in their ISA. It would make more sense to call a word 64 bits though on a new x86 processor. Newer ISA's like MIPS call a word 32 bits, although again this is probably a misnomer for the newer 64-bit MIPS processors. And of course you can always go back in time...

Trying to make sense of the size of C types like 'int' is even trickier, since this is determined by your ABI, which can vary by operating system and even compiler. For instance, on a 64-bit x86 processor, on Windows, 'long int' is 32 bits, but on the same machine running Linux, it's 64 bits. This is fun to deal with if you're trying to write cross-platform code. I think that the coolest feature of C99 are these uint64_t style types where you can specify the exact width of your integer.

Heretic · Post by **Heretic** » Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:38 am

Ok since you are not getting the joke I'll have to explain it better. A binary bit is a 1 or 0 when arranged in a in set of 8 you get value of 256 represented by 0-255. The same 8 bit in a ASCII chart and can be mapped to characters of text. Now go to this site and do a Binary conversion of 101010 and see what you get for text.

Yes that site is wrong because that it actually converts to *

Isaac · Post by **Isaac** » Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:44 am

ooOOOOOh!

AlphaDoG · Post by **AlphaDoG** » Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:14 am

LOL@ the error message.

\"Error: Malformed binary. Your binary code is must be divisible by 8.\"

Foil · Post by **Foil** » Mon Oct 11, 2010 12:57 pm

Heretic wrote:Ok since you are not getting the joke...

No, we get it. Of course 6 bits doesn't make an 8-bit ASCII character code. But why would you even consider that, much less make an inane joke about it?

On the other hand, what you don't seem to get is that '101010' is perfectly valid binary.

Heretic wrote:Yes that site is wrong because that it actually converts to *

Wrong. The site is quite correct.

101010 = 00101010 = 42 = The ASCII code for '*'.

Heretic · Post by **Heretic** » Mon Oct 11, 2010 1:35 pm

So you didn't go to the site did you? You didn't put in the small 101010 did you? You add 2 zeros to get yours. Seems like dog went there and put it in and found the message. Of course it's a valid binary. 101010 is also the ultimate answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe, and everything. Bet you didn't even pick up on that either did you.

Isaac · Post by **Isaac** » Mon Oct 11, 2010 2:32 pm

Foil · Post by **Foil** » Mon Oct 11, 2010 3:21 pm

Heretic, you need to stop making assumptions. To wit:

Heretic wrote:So you didn't go to the site did you?

Yes, I did. Why are you assuming otherwise?

Heretic wrote:You didn't put in the small 101010 did you?

Yes, I did. Why are you assuming otherwise?

Heretic wrote:You add 2 zeros to get yours.

No, I didn't. Why are you assuming otherwise?

Entering '101010', you get the error message, but you also get the '*' result (which again, is quite correct).

Heretic wrote:101010 is also the ultimate answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe, and everything. Bet you didn't even pick up on that either did you.

Yes, I did. [...Do I need to say it again?]

I didn't mention it, simply because it's one of the more overused sci-fi quips.

Heretic · Post by **Heretic** » Mon Oct 11, 2010 3:47 pm

Foil wrote:Heretic, you need to stop making assumptions. To wit:

Heretic wrote:So you didn't go to the site did you?
Yes, I did. Why are you assuming otherwise?

Heretic wrote:You didn't put in the small 101010 did you?
Yes, I did. Why are you assuming otherwise?

Heretic wrote:You add 2 zeros to get yours.
No, I didn't. Why are you assuming otherwise?

Entering '101010', you get the error message, but you also get the '*' result (which again, is quite correct).

Care to lie again

I see no * in the image. I also doubt Dog seen a * when he typed in 101010

Jeff250 · Post by **Jeff250** » Mon Oct 11, 2010 3:51 pm

Heretic wrote:Malformed binary. Your binary code must be divisible by 8

If a binary number is divisible by 8, that just means that it's three least significant bits are 0 (since 2^3 ==

. In other words, it's any binary number of the form

*000,

where * is zero or more 0's or 1's.

Krom · Post by **Krom** » Mon Oct 11, 2010 3:54 pm

There are only 10 kinds of people in this world: those that understand binary and those that don't.

Jeff250 · Post by **Jeff250** » Mon Oct 11, 2010 3:54 pm

Also, ASCII characters are technically 7-bits.

Foil · Post by **Foil** » Mon Oct 11, 2010 3:56 pm

Heretic wrote:Care to lie again
...
I see no * in the image. I also doubt Dog seen a * when he typed in 101010

Here you go again making assumptions.

Two others see the translation, but because you didn't (psst, try any other browsers?), you think "it must be a lie"?

[That puts you up to five unfounded assumptions now...]

You're a frigging riot.

P.S. "seen"?

Spidey · Post by **Spidey** » Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:03 pm

I don’t see any “*” but then again, I am using the bane of modern computing. (IE)

Ferno · Post by **Ferno** » Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:08 pm

my god, it's full of stars

Heretic · Post by **Heretic** » Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:13 pm

Krom wrote:There are only 10 kinds of people in this world: those that understand binary and those that don't.

I thought it was

There are only 10 types of people in the world - those who understand ternary, those who don't, and those who mistake it for binary

I don't see in chrome and I don't see it in IE I don't see it in Firefox. So pray tell which browser you are using.

Foil · Post by **Foil** » Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:15 pm

Heretic wrote:There are only 10 types of people in the world - those who understand ternary, those who don't, and those who mistake it for binary

Ha! I like that one. I've never seen it before.

TIGERassault · Post by **TIGERassault** » Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:42 am

Fun fact: it was my birthday then!

Yesh, I was 20 on 10/10/2010!

Dan Browne could write a book on me!

Krom wrote:There are only 10 kinds of people in this world: those that understand binary and those that don't.

Why do programmers keep mixing up Halloween with Christmas?

Because Oct 31 is Dec 25!

...
Okay, I'm leaving, I'm leaving! No need to get violent!

SirWinner · Post by **SirWinner** » Mon Oct 18, 2010 7:23 pm

Heretic wrote:Malformed binary. Your binary code must be divisible by 8

Since when is BINARY ( Base 2 ) OCTAL ( Base 8 )?

Have programmed computers for almost 33 years... nobody notified me of any changes to Binary since I first learned it in the late 1970's.

The date 10/10/10 should be represented at 10102010 which doesn't fit as Binary since there are only 2 possible digits of 0 and 1 in Base 2... Or did someone forget Y2K? (Year 2000)

Wheeeeeee!

Hope you had a great birthday!

Sirius · Post by **Sirius** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 1:14 am

TIGERassault wrote:Because Oct 31 is Dec 25!

Heh, clever. (Whoever first spotted it anyway, probably a long time ago...)

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