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Verizon Using Apache?

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:08 pm
by Nergen-Ak1-Defender
this apache server error showed up on my screen while deleting a boat load of spam. Isnt apache open source? I always had this thought of major corporations hating open source... You know except the usual ones like: oracle, sun....

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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:38 pm
by fliptw
Major corporations have nothing against open source software, they may have something against a common open source license.

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:56 pm
by Krom
I think roughly 50% of the internet HTTP servers out there are run on Apache, it is the current standard for web servers.

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:50 am
by The Lion
fliptw wrote:Major corporations have nothing against open source software, they may have something against a common open source license.
The common "open source" license in question is the GNU General
Public License, and it is in fact much older than open source itself,
which has only existed for a decade.

The GNU GPL originates from the "Free Software" movement, the
goal of which is to promote software that grants its users the
freedom to modify and redistribute it, effectively shifting control
over it from its original developers to its users.

This conflicts in several areas with the business goal of making as
much money as possible, which serves purely in the companies' own
interest.

In particular, Microsoft noted the fact that GPL-licensed software
requires that any derivatives of it are also licensed under the GNU
GPL; if you write a program that uses GPL'ed code, it may only
be distributed under the GPL. MS used this to compare the GNU
GPL to a "cancer" and make uninformed people afraid of it.

This is why some companies avoid the GNU GPL or even "open
source" software altogether.

A few other things worthy to note at this point:
  1. Major corporations such as Microsoft never talk about "free
    software", only "open source". I'm guessing this is because the
    former puts emphasis on users' freedom and is therefore far
    more dangerous to these companies when brought more into
    public awareness.
  2. The GNU GPL is a copyright license, not an EULA/contract.
    Mere usage of software falls outside its scope; you don't have
    to worry about it if you don't copy or modify the programs
    covered by it.
As for Apache - its license is more permissive. It doesn't require that
the freedoms granted are preserved across modification/redistribution,
so Microsoft's "cancer" comparison doesn't even apply. The Apache
license is `corporate friendly'.

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 1:28 pm
by Sllik
I'm actually part of the shop that maintains/monitors/fixes those exact servers, and I can tell you that they will end up using whatever HTTP server the application requires, and when they're free to choose, they'll go with free/opensource. That's not necessarily always true for other corporations, or even within different parts of a single organization, but that's how our shop operates. I prefer to think of us as the splinter cell part of the corp ;)