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Fight Club's Tyler Durden (3d model)

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 10:45 pm
by Darktalyn1
I'm modeling Tyler Durden from Fight Club... Any comments are appreciated. Here's a couple WIP shots

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Still a long way to go I know. Feel free to point out any glaring problems

peace

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 11:44 pm
by Tetrad
Only thing right off the bat is that the eyes are way too wide.

Looks awesome otherwise though.

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 1:52 am
by Ferno
something about the forehead ridges aren't right. too few and they don't follow the brow curve.

but yeah like Tetrad said. awesome otherwise.

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 9:59 am
by Darktalyn1
Thanks for the suggestions guys!

Can you elaborate on too wide? Is it that they are set too far apart, or each eye is too wide itself? Or maybe you mean they are just opened too wide?

Also, if anyone knows of a place where I can snag some good orthographic shots of Brad Pitt, let me know. I have a lot of stills captured off the Fight Club DVD for reference but they're not the best...

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 12:38 pm
by Tetrad
Opened too wide.

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 11:18 pm
by Darktalyn1
Did a fair amount of tweaking tonight, please let me know if you think I am going in the right direction. Always good to hear what someone else has to say... I've been staring at this way too long.

Here is right now, the hair is hidden:

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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 1:04 am
by Darktalyn1
A few more changes before bed...

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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 1:18 am
by Ferno
very nice.

what you can do as a substitute for an orthographic is raise your own eyebrows and feel how the ridges on the forehead are. or use a mirror.

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 11:00 pm
by Darktalyn1
STILL plugging away on this head.... But it's getting there. Check out the progress I've made since my first post...

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The new head is on the right Image Anyway I'm still holding off a new post to CGTalk till tomorrow when I'm done with my tweaks. Then I can throw it back to the wolves and get verbally raped with crits again.

But you guys are pretty sympathetic so I don't mind showing you where it's at as of right now Image

And I did start his jacket... maybe halfway done.

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Thanks for any feedback... more to come later

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 11:58 pm
by Vindicator
Holy cow... looks amazing.

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 7:48 am
by Gavotte
Looking more and more like Brad... awesome! Image

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 4:06 pm
by Darktalyn1
Thanks Vin and Gav.

New front a profile shot has been posted in the top post. Let me know what you think. Jacket should be done tonight (I hope); I'll be posting soon...

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 1:58 am
by Darktalyn1
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Jacket is almost done. I realized that I forgot to model the side pockets, so I'm going to do them tomorrow.

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 7:35 pm
by Defender
Dark's taking over Kuman's spot. Image

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 4:30 am
by roid
hey yeah DT he does kinda look like brad pitt, good work Image. with the clothes, you can really give him anything coz tyler durden gets all his clothes from lost items bins.

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 8:15 am
by Darktalyn1
Thanks guys. I'm trying to model him with specific clothes on because by the end of the semester the plan is to composite the CG Tyler into Fight Club footage over the real Tyler. Will have to wait till then to see just how seamlessly this is pulled off...

The scene I'm going to be compositing my character into is the one where he says "I want you to hit me as hard as you can", I might be doing 1 or 2 cuts from this scene.

Plus when I think of Tyler I always think of him in that vinyl-ish red jacket.

Anyway it will be a few days before I make another update. My little sister's wedding is this weekend... AND it's valentines day and the girlfriend wants some of my time after all this workin'

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Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 10:32 pm
by Darktalyn1
hey guys.. still plugging away... here's a WIP of the jacket texture... still needs some work (haven't done anything for the shirt yet)

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thanks to all who have given feedback thusfar... very much appreciated

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 1:56 am
by Ferno
clothes look kinda plastic.

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 8:12 am
by DCrazy
Yeah, the jacket looks more like Saran Wrap. The contrast in the highlights should be pretty harsh (ie. the highlights are bright, but anything else isn't), not smoothed out. You might have to put more wrinkles in too.

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 1:06 am
by roid
but vinyl IS plastic Image

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 2:08 am
by Ferno
yea but it's not supposed to be that plasicky(sp?)

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 7:09 am
by Duper
It's nogahide ... not vinyl. btw.. do you have ANY idea how hard it is to skin a noga? ..take my word for it.. it's not easy. Image

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 7:54 am
by BUBBALOU
jacket looks fine..

don't touch the jacket until you almost done, then put a noise modifier with diffusion

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 1:36 pm
by Darktalyn1
wtf is nogahide? I'm still working at it; it looks more leathery right now...

I'll try what you said bubba. Shots later on.

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 2:45 pm
by Darktalyn1
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Not perfect but I'm already slipping behind schedule so going to have to move on to the hands for now. Might get an opportunity to go back and touch things up toward the end of the semester.

I wasn't ever able to figure out what his shirt pattern was in that scene, and all my references were crappily lit and/or small. So I ended up just giving his shirt a floral pattern that somewhat resembles the actual shirt.

Hopefully I can post the hand models in a few days.... peace

Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 12:13 am
by Darktalyn1
Hands...

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Going to be working on this a lot over Spring Break... Might even finish him.

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 3:13 pm
by Darktalyn1
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Added the scar to the right hand.

I also started the pants ... but unfortunately this project is on the backburner till Spring Break starts (March 6)

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 7:57 am
by Nitrofox125
That looks absoloutly amazing!

Although the scar looks like it's raised a little too much off the hand, not sure if that's what you were going for...

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 8:00 pm
by JMEaT
Dude the pics are awesome. Except the "scar" .

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 8:46 pm
by Darktalyn1
Nitro & JMeat;

Thanks for the replies guys.

This is the only reference shot I have of the scar..

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I'll watch that scene on the DVD again to compare more thoroughly...

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 9:37 pm
by roid
the book has a good verbal description of the scar.
but my friend has had it for the past year, i'll have to grab it back off him and quote it.

you have to remember that that scar is a KISS. symbolically very important.

any pics you get of any of the space monkey's kiss scars would be the same. they are all tyler's kiss.

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2004 1:19 am
by Duper
lookin at the photo and the model, imo, the face needs to be narrower from about the cheekbones on down. ..but can I do this?? no. :) Lookin great!

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 12:17 am
by Darktalyn1
Shoes...

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Pants and hair soon...

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 7:56 am
by Floyd
awesome dude!

check the thumbnail and compare it with your reference pic for the scar, i think the nail bed is a little lower.

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 12:42 pm
by Iongchimp
This is the stupidest thing I've ever seen.

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 4:47 pm
by Ryujin
I think this is all very, very different.

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 6:46 pm
by Nitrofox125
DT Okay, I hadn't seen the movie so I didn't know what it looked like. Looking at the DVD pic, it looks about right

Awesome job dude :)

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 7:51 pm
by Darkside Heartless
Furious, chimp, if you have nothing good to say, say nothing at all. If you think can do better, prove it, then you can bash his work.

I'm impressed at how good the model has looked so far. It's very well done, looks like something you could sell.

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 8:02 pm
by DCrazy
Whoever resurrected longchimp, :roll: @ you. And last I heard DT and FM were still pretty good friends...

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 1:48 am
by Ferno
i just reaized something. your model has no adam's apple.